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Grant Neufeld was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE

Page is little more than a collection of external links. The sea of redlinks from Alberta general election, 2004 seems to encourage this sort of page creation. Even if the article was improved, I'm not sure the candidate would be notable. Green Party seems weak in Alberta (less than 10%), and this candidate is one of 50 local green candidates, I think. Cool Hand Luke 06:58, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

  • Delete. Non-notable local candidate. — Gwalla | Talk 07:07, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete. Perhaps the OP of the Alberta election article might consider delinking his enormous list of candidates? I think there's a very good case for their not being included. Does Wikipedia usually carry lists of candidates in local elections?Dr Zen 07:09, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. As I'm very new to contributing to Wikipedia, I'll apologize for the mistake. I'll go in and try to clean up the Alberta general election, 2004 page to prevent others from being led to the same mistake. As to the state of the party in Alberta - we had about 10% in my area in the recent federal election, and expect even better numbers in this election. We might just elect someone (maybe me) this time, which would be notable as being the first Green Party candidate elected in Canada. However, until that happens, we'll leave off having a separate page. --GrantNeufeld 07:22, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • Grant, that shows a tremendous attitude. Good luck in the election. Welcome to Wikipedia. Hope this will be the first of many contributions.Dr Zen 07:24, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • Exactly what Dr Zen said. Welcome to wikipedia, good luck with the election, and thank you very much. I think this shows exactly why we should include deadlinks very sparingly. Cool Hand Luke 07:35, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • Agreed that the deadlinks are misleading. I've cleaned up the Alberta general election, 2004 page leaving in only those candidate links that lead to pages (such as the party leaders). Would it be appropriate to (external) link candidates on that page to their individual campaign websites, if they have one? GrantNeufeld 07:57, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
      • I'd say that's inappropriate - I believe the Wikipedia guideline is to avoid external links within the article. If the party website has a page listing candidates websites, perhaps you could link once to the party website under the 'external links' category at the bottom of the page. Average Earthman 09:24, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
      • Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification. GrantNeufeld 09:35, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. But good luck in the election. ---Rednblu | Talk 11:17, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. But I love that your campaign website is licenced under Creative Commons. Good luck, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 13:56, Oct 27, 2004 (UTC)
    • Thanks. I figure democracy should be free ("as in speech") and open. No one should have a monopoly, or control of "intellectual property", on any aspect of genuinely democratic process.GrantNeufeld 16:37, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Actually, folks, check out the guy's user page. President of the Alberta Green Party? IMHO, that makes him notable whether he's elected or not, although I do also recognize the problematic nature of "Wikipedia user writes page on self". Hard call. (As an aside, best of luck to you, Grant. Give Ralph hell!) Bearcat 22:09, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Note that "President" is not the same as "Leader". In political parties, the president is a more organizational role - responsible for the management of the party. The leader is the public face, responsible for the direction of the party. As to "writes page on self" - I'd think that would only be problematic if no one else could correct the disinformation I would put out about myself... (just kidding, folks.) GrantNeufeld 00:45, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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