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Long, confusing, and disorganized

This article rambles on and on. The article said there were 3 schools: Classical, Positivist, and Chicago, but Differential association (sub-cultural) was stuck in there at the same level as Positivist. Is Positivist part of Chicago? I reduced it by one level, but it still does not make sense.

And what about Social structure theories? Is that part of Chicago, or is it a fourth school? Comfr (talk) 05:44, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I did not write this article, but I did make a change based on your comment to help make the article clearer. Yes, differential association is a part of the positivist school. However, after the three schools mentioned, I agree that there seemed to be a missing header that would have added to the clarity of the article. Consequently, I changed the header that said "schools of thought," which includes the classical, positivist, and Chicago schools, to "early schools of thought." I then added a header that says "other schools of thought" just above the "social structure" heading.

As for the length of the article, I am not sure that can be helped. Criminology is a large field, and most of the theories and paradigms listed in this article are important to the field. Intro to criminology textbooks are hundreds of pages long, so it is not a field that can be summed up in a few paragraphs.

At the same time, I do agree that the article could have transitions that make it smoother and illustrate the progression of thinking. These different approaches to criminology happened “in conversation” over a period of time. In other words, each approach/theory was often a reaction to other earlier approaches, either in agreement with (and building on) or in critique of them, offering a differing view.

Right now, because of the lack of transitions, the article reads more like an annotated bibliography, but it does give broad coverage, which is good. 149.101.1.117 (talk) 16:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question regarding first picture?

Although I merely skimmed this article, I was a bit confused about the first picture that shows up when reading the introductory. What do the three ladies have to do with the basic information/history of criminology?

May be a dumb question, since I did not closely read, but please give me some insight!

MeownyWave (talk) 09:12, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the criticism section?

No reference to Foucault? Anarchists? In this page there is a severe lack of critical opinions. It's nothing more than propaganda. 79.32.30.14 (talk) 13:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prove/Disprove

I made a small edit to this sentence:

Lance Lochner performed three different research experiments, each one proving education reduces crime.

Changed to:

Lance Lochner performed three different research experiments, each one supporting education reduces crime.

Research “supports,” “suggests,” or “confirms” a particular hypothesis, but does not “prove” or “disprove.” In other words, prove/disprove is not the language that you would find in research articles. A subtle, but important, distinction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.101.1.117 (talk) 15:55, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]