Talk:Hyderabad

Metropolis or Megacity

I saw you reverted my edit made to page of Hyderabad, Telangana settlement type changed from "Metropolis" to "Megacity" by me. I would like to share relevant sources to support my answer

Hyderabad estimated population figures 2024 = 11,068,877, which is clearly > 10 million. Hence, Hyderabad qualifies as a Megacity.

Source url = Hyderabad Population 2024 (worldpopulationreview.com)

another sources which supports the fact that Hyderabad's population is > 10 million

url 2 = Hyderabad, India Metro Area Population 1950-2024 | MacroTrends

url 3 = Hyderabad Population 2024 (populationu.com)

url 4 = Population of cities in India 2024 - StatisticsTimes.com

url 5 = Hyderabad, India Population (2024) - Population Stat

url 6 = Hyderabad (Greater Hyderabad) Metropolitan Urban Region Population 2011-2024 Census (census2011.co.in)

url 7 = Hyderabad Population in 2024, Demographics, City Size, Population Growth (cinemamanishi.com)

Now, I would request you to publish my edit. Anonymous copy (talk) 18:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

@Anonymous copy and Arjayay: Many of these sources are quite poor. For example census2011.co.in is a scraper site that used to be blocked on Wikipedia. Others such as worldpopulationreview.com and www.macrotrends.net are publishing projections for their data after 2011. The projections extrapolate from old census data using assumed growth rates and data on changes in the city borders. They are only reliable as sources for what they themselves say.-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Anonymous copy / Toddy1 - As I have already explained to Anonymous copy on my talk page "we are working off the official census figures. The 2011 census of India ([1] page 3} clearly states that there are only 3 Megacities in India. We know the 2021 census is unlikely to be taken until late in 2024, and unlikely to report until 2025, but we need to wait until then, not only for the official population figure, but also as they may change their definition of Megacity" - There is no deadline - Arjayay (talk) 20:20, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

But many pages still contain estimated figures only, according to the 2011 census there are only 3 megacities i.e. Delhi, Mumbai & Kolkata but Bengaluru & Chennai are also given Megacity status as their population estimated figure is greater than 10 million, just like Hyderabad. I request you to maintain uniformity in data, either take estimated figures for all or take only 2011 census data. Anonymous copy (talk) 23:13, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

That other shops have broken windows is not a good reason to go around throwing bricks through shop windows. See for example WP:OTHERSTUFF and WP:OTHERSPAMEXISTS.-- Toddy1 (talk) 09:24, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

go and correct them Mr. Editor, broken Windows can be replaced or repaired. OR just don't reverse other's edit and contributions. Don't try to justify yourself with illogical quotes. You're wrong that's why losing the argument, as I have provided all resources and references. Anonymous copy (talk) 05:02, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

I agree that these sources are too poor to be used. If Hyderabad is a megacity, it should be easy to find strong reliable sources that say so. DrKay (talk) 05:11, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

okay don't edit, but facts are not going to change for you. Anonymous copy (talk) 08:13, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Mega City

• • As per world population review it already touched 11 million. The population you are defending is 2011 census, 13 yr old stats. Stop this discussion based on 2011 census, after that there is no census data in India. Even for bangalore we dont have reliable sources from Indias official census.
  • The population crossed 10 million in bangalore and hyderabad but there is no official census after 2011. Statista un reliable source even for bangalore so till census is done cant mark Bangalore as Megacity either.

Dont promote your favourite city Bangalore without official data.

There is no official data after 2011 census in Indian citites, so only 3 cities qualify as Mega cities Delhi, Mumbai & Kolkata.

• https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/hyderabad-population
• https://www.populationu.com/cities/hyderabad-population

Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 10:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

The answers to your questions have already been answered at Talk:Hyderabad#Metropolis or Megacity. As for issues with the article on Bangalore; they should be raised there.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:08, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

New Montage to be included

[[file:File:Hyderabad skyline Khajaguda.jpeg|alt=]]

Business District at Khajaguda

Buddha Statue

Falaknuma Palace

Birla Mandir

Qutb Shahi tombs

File:Telangana State Secretariat Front View.jpg

Telangana Secretariat

Charminar during Ramadan

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ustadeditor2011 (talk • contribs) 11:32, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Infoboxes says Infoboxes may also include an image, a map, or both. It does not say a gallery of seven images. Collages/montages are allowed; WP:MONTAGE says: Collages and montages are single images that illustrate multiple closely related concepts, where overlapping or similar careful placement of component images is necessary to illustrate a point in an encyclopedic way. ... If a gallery would serve as well as a collage or montage, the gallery should be preferred, as galleries are easier to maintain and adjust better to user preferences. What you have done is to create a gallery. It should not go in the infobox. One of the problems with galleries in the infobox is that they are far too big; montages take up less space. There is a lot to be said for having single images in infoboxes, as is done with the article on the Khajaguda Lake.

Regarding the proposed gallery, one of the images File:Hyderabad skyline Khajaguda.jpeg is an unfree image, that is up for deletion - see Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2024 June 12.

It would also have been better if each image had been given alt text. This was explained to you here. -- Toddy1 (talk) 11:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

A bot has removed image 1 from your gallery.-- Toddy1 (talk) 13:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Detroit and Bangalore Why??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangalore. These are not in montage format, then why ru forcing Hyderabad article to be in montage format? can u be clear I dont understand your views. Updated montage format in Hyderabad article pls check, but in this format cant put a title below the picture like Bangalore article. Then montage should be place in bangalore article also. Why special considerations for Bangalore article I dont understand Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 05:51, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

WP:OTHERCONTENT. DrKay (talk) 06:36, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Just dont copy paste a rule and escape, tell people in simple language why you are disrupting when I am trying to contibute updatted images? things should be uniform when it comes to montages of city Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 10:48, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

But you have not contributed updated images. You uploaded copyright images with an irrelevant fair use rationale. If you want to contribute updated images, get a camera and take some photographs of features of the city that you think ought to be photographed.

Regarding what the rules are, I have already answered that question, both in response to your question, and to previous accounts who asked the same question. You can find the answers both on this page and in the talk page archive. -- Toddy1 (talk) 11:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

@Ustadeditor2011: Please do not delete or substantially edit your posts after other editors have responded to them.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

I see that you tried adding a revised montage in the correct format, and using alt text. Well done!

• But it was far too large: 215 millimetres (8.5 in) tall. The old one is 135 millimetres (5.3 in) tall.
• And it had a copyright image as part of it.

-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:48, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

The copyright image is retained if new montage is allowed to be uploaded, whats is wrong if it is 8.5 in tall. Check Bangalore article. I am now assuming it as consensus recieved. Ustadeditor2011 (talk) 03:40, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

When the bottom two photos are put side-by-side it reduces the height to 135 millimetres (5.3 in) tall, which is acceptable. I have also fixed the order of the caption for the montage in the infobox so that it corresponds with the order of the photos. The alt text is so useful in checking that they correspond (or not).

Since nobody has objected to the deletion of the copyright photograph, it will be presumably be deleted some time after 17 19 June, and then we can go back to the old montage.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:18, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Non-free images cannot be used on wikipedia unless there is no free equivalent and no other way of describing the content. See Wikipedia:Non-free content for guidance, and specifically Wikipedia:Non-free content#Non-free image use in galleries or tables. DrKay (talk) 08:30, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Income figures

Under economy section, it says "Its per capita annual income in 2011 was ₹44,300 (US$530)", I think this figure must be for monthly income and not annual. As a resident of this city this sounds very wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.17.146 (talk) 10:37, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

The figures come from a July 2011 article in the Times of India: Hyderabad's contribution to the GDP of the country is significant. Its size and per capita income of about Rs 44,300 are among the highest.^[2]

In this March 2023 New Indian Express article the term "per capita income" seems to have been used to mean Net State Domestic Product (NSDP) divided by the population.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:50, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2024

Hyderabad, initially known as Gollaconda, which was a shepherd hillock, later a mud fort was constructed by Kakatiya Dynesty rulers and from then it is called as Golconda. The mud fort reconstructed with stone by the Qutub Shahi dynesty 2405:201:C012:8043:4506:D9C2:CDDE:3596 (talk) 09:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --Ferien (talk) 09:57, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Hatnote

Please make sure the hatnote directly links to Hyderabad, Sindh. That is a city of over 2 million people that is named "Hyderabad"--when people type Hyderabad, they should not have to go to the disambiguation page to find what they were looking for. Red Slash 01:45, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Naming, Toponomy

The first stanza discusses naming firstly indicated its after Captain Ali Talib (Haydar) Then it goes on to speculate itwas after the supposed title "Haydar Mahal" taken by the founder's wife Only one can be correct and I am pretty sure the the last line is the mistaken legend, the name was after her named Bhag Nagar in the earlier Hindu years, then named "Haider Abad" after the Sultan, it cannot be both since the hindu girl probably lived much him JackDurden01 (talk) 07:51, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

The article already explains this. DrKay (talk) 07:58, 10 November 2024 (UTC)